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#1 Posted : Monday, May 24, 2010 10:59:52 PM(UTC)
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I got a free HTC Evo at google IO, but I currently use a droid on verizon.  I was wondering if I could activate the Evo on my verizon account since sprint and verizon use the same 3g technology?  Anyone know anything about whether this is possible, how to find out if the Evo is locked (probably is), or how to unlock it?
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#2 Posted : Monday, May 24, 2010 11:53:23 PM(UTC)
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i was thinking the same thing if u find out email me or pm me chumba8@gmail.com
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:23:24 PM(UTC)
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If someone ever figures this out id like to know cause the phone looks awesome. The only phone that looks good that coming to verizon is the Shadow. But my guess is you can't. Just look at ATT and T-Mobile. There both GSM but are on different frequences and cant use the same 3g signal.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:15:08 PM(UTC)
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Hopefully my experience will help you guys. When the palm pre first came out I picked one up and took on the task of getting it over to Verizon. The first hurdle was the software on the phone, had to unlock it, change the prl and edit some other nv-items.  The biggest hurdle is getting Verizon to add your MEID from the evo into their database, which is extremely difficult.  A social engineering task really.

I wasn't able to get them to add my MEID so I repaired my MEID if you know what that means.  It's nothing I'll speak of on here, but google it.  And that was how I got a palm pre on verizon, with a bit of spoofing.  There were still issues with data provisioning though.  Don't know if this would be easier with an android phone since the OS is easily masked. 
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:12:33 AM(UTC)
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To my knowledge, I was the first to successfully port a Sprint HTC Touch Pro to Verizon and as the last user said, the hardest part is finding a Verizon Employee with the knowledge, willingness, and access to add your MEID to the DMD. My previous contact MIGHT still be a possibility and I know a couple other places I can check (if a user on AllDroid doesn't step up first), but I haven't fired up QPST in a while so I'll have to refresh on that too. Anyone else think they know/remember that side of things? Have info on where to get the latest version (don't post illegal links)?



Being a Verizon customer and also having received a free Supersonic at I/O, I'll be working on this and will report back if I get anywhere.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:34:41 AM(UTC)
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Pozzi wrote:
Hopefully my experience will help you guys. When the palm pre first came out I picked one up and took on the task of getting it over to Verizon. The first hurdle was the software on the phone, had to unlock it, change the prl and edit some other nv-items.  The biggest hurdle is getting Verizon to add your MEID from the evo into their database, which is extremely difficult.  A social engineering task really.

I wasn't able to get them to add my MEID so I repaired my MEID if you know what that means.  It's nothing I'll speak of on here, but google it.  And that was how I got a palm pre on verizon, with a bit of spoofing.  There were still issues with data provisioning though.  Don't know if this would be easier with an android phone since the OS is easily masked. 





Can you elaborate as to why you won't speak of it here? Googling MEID it was pretty easy to find some examples of what's going on here. Is this information somehow gonna cause Verizon to bring the rain or something??? I don't know what you mean when you say repaired. Does that mean you replaced the MEID on said phone with an MEID from a "valid" verizon phone??? 
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:00:58 AM(UTC)
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I contacted one person i know at version also as i got the I/O Google evo too from someone who went and wanted to try this too he told me he could do it it might just take a little massaging into the system I am also thinking worst case freezing the line I added for the incredible I just bought and just trying Sprint for a few months u get free service till the 20th anyway and u have no contact let's all keep everyone informed
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#9 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 5:30:07 AM(UTC)
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  any cs you call can submit a ticket to add the esn into the system you just have a good excuse or reason. when i switched from alltel to verizon they had problems putting my storm back into the system because i had it on alltel. So what imma try with the evo is telling them its a htc incredible that someone tried to put on cricket and that is probaly why the esn isnt showing in the system anymore. as far as programming your gonna need qpst and the spc code.
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#10 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 6:16:36 AM(UTC)
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I know some managers of stores around the area... let me see what they can do for this evo you speak of...
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#11 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 8:05:33 AM(UTC)
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Not sure why we need someone from VZW to do anything. I activated 2 sprint Touch Pro's on verizon without talking to anyone. I loaded the proper PRL and made the necessary hacks, then used *228 to activate them. I couldn't activate through their website or with customer service, but *228 did not give me a single hiccup. What's different with the EVO?
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#12 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 2:24:54 PM(UTC)
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^^ there used to be a loophole in the 228 number where it would allow you to activate a phone not in the DMD, but not anymore.  That's been patched up, I'm guessing that is what you're talking about.



And to the poster who asked me about repairing (switching) MEID and why I won't talk about it.  It is because of the legality of switching ESN's. 



I have QPST and CDMA workshop but unfortunately no EVO so I can't be much help on this.



In regards to getting the EVO added to the DMD it's all about working the right angle and being persistent.  Unfortunately this means that each person that is going to want an EVO on vzw will have to go through the same process.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:57:50 AM(UTC)
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Has there been any more info on this? I loaded a Verizon PRL on my EVO and was wanting to get the MEID added to the Verizon network. Thanks!
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, June 08, 2010 3:49:35 PM(UTC)
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jrytlewski wrote:
Has there been any more info on this? I loaded a Verizon PRL on my EVO and was wanting to get the MEID added to the Verizon network. Thanks!

Mind uploading that prl and sharing instructions?
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, June 08, 2010 6:24:46 PM(UTC)
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Here is where I got the PRL from:

http://wiki.xda-develope...?pagename=HTC_Incredible

What I ended up doing was calling up Sprint, getting the MSL.

1) Put that file on your SD Card (probably root)
2) Dial ##775#
3) When asked for the passcode put in the MSL number.
4) You will then be in a screen to update the PRL, after finding the PRL from the card, hit menu to commit the changes.

Your phone reboots, you are now on the Verizon Network. if you were to dial *228 you get verizon setup. the problem is that the MEID is not in the system you cannot activate the phone. Even with the supposed *228 option 3 does not work.

Which is why i'm looking for someone that can add a MEID to the system. If you know of someone that can, let me know.
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:09:28 PM(UTC)
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Okay guys... here is a little information for you all. Let me make it very plain and simple for you when I say that you will not get anything added to the DMD.



DMD additions are handled by an offline team that works directly for HQ. In order to add an MEID to the DMD, we fill out a form to submit to them. That form includes two very pivotal bits of information: The original order location and the order number. Without this information, or if they cannot verify the original order in the billing system, they will not add an MEID to the DMD. The people who work for the DMD team are not idiots and they can cross reference MEIDs to the original manufacturer orders. In other words, if you give them an HTC EVO 4G MEID and play it off that it's an Incredible or something, they are going to know that it is, in fact, an HTC EVO 4G. The only way that you will ever get an MEID added without going through the proper channels is to know someone who works on that offline team, and they're probably not going to risk their job to put a phone on the network.



The OTA IVR hole was patched shortly after the first few Sprint TP2s were activated on the network. The OTA IVR now checks back with the DMD before accepting an ESN for activation.



I can try to assist you with any other questions you might have.
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:20:48 PM(UTC)
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bummer but it sounds like SOL for all those evo people... anyone wanna give it away :D j/k sucks the evo had to go to such a bad nw... at least from my experience in the south MS, AL, GA, SC, FL the Sprint service is spotty at best... Good luck gents I hope you all get it sorted I fear however you are as I said SOL... :(
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:55:21 PM(UTC)
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Nobody wants to hear from the nay-sayers. The last 2 posts will serve as examples for what NOT to post here. The op is looking for a solution. If you are posting and that post isn't working toward a solution, you are in the wrong. Please keep posts on topic and productive. Not too much to ask is it?
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 09, 2010 6:12:40 PM(UTC)
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jrytlewski wrote:
Here is where I got the PRL from:



http://wiki.xda-develope...?pagename=HTC_Incredible



What I ended up doing was calling up Sprint, getting the MSL.



1) Put that file on your SD Card (probably root)

2) Dial ##775#

3) When asked for the passcode put in the MSL number.

4) You will then be in a screen to update the PRL, after finding the PRL from the card, hit menu to commit the changes.



Your phone reboots, you are now on the Verizon Network. if you were to dial *228 you get verizon setup. the problem is that the MEID is not in the system you cannot activate the phone. Even with the supposed *228 option 3 does not work.



Which is why i'm looking for someone that can add a MEID to the system. If you know of someone that can, let me know.






you will probably need to do what a previous poster did - change your meid to one of say, you motorola droid. this way the esn is already in their system, and it will look like you are simply doing a service update to your phone.



Verizon recently changed their OTA options as well, just option 1 and 2 - no more 3 to switch phone. 1 also instructs you that your old phone MUST be off - however i have switched several phones with both of them being on so who knows.



in todays day and age, i wish anyone luck getting ahold of a verizon rep to add a non-verion esn to the database - just not worth it to blow your career, i know i wouldnt do it.



the much safer and worth while route is changing the devices esn to match an existing verizon phone - note that this is illegal and should only be swapped with an esn of a phone that YOU own. in doing this route, note that you actually must keep your other phone powered off at all times or verizon will probably be tipped off to two separate phones with the same esn trying to connect to different towers.



i wish you the best of luck! and i hope you are successful - if you get in a jam, a number to reference is 866-221-4096 - 1 for english, enter your phone number, 3 for data team. these guys should be the tier 2+ tech support and will most likely be the fastest way to someone who could force your non verizon esn through - especially if you threaten churn nonchalantly lol
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, June 09, 2010 7:13:28 PM(UTC)
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This information is kind of down the line but figured I would post it since I just remembered it.  To the poster who said they changed the PRL and the banner, good job and good info there.  What I see to be the next step is repairing the MEID to that of a say droid. I would probably use CDMA workshop for this, great tool.  From then on the next logical step is to activate on verizon and then you will get some weird error, you are going to need the a-key reset. So if you get to the point where you have repaired the MEID and have the PRL loaded w/ the correct banner then all you should need to do in order to complete it is call the tech service number and just tell them you can't make calls and eventually they will troubleshoot it enough to reset the a-key, or u can tell them off the bat you need the a-key reset.  I hope we get to this step and this information becomes useful.  Wish I had an evo I could work on, just can't spring the full price yet.
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#21 Posted : Sunday, June 13, 2010 8:39:18 AM(UTC)
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Hopefully no one will get mad at this post but i had a couple questions and figured this is the best thread to ask them in.



What does DMD stand for?

Is there a high cost/long waiting period/ Some other siginificant reason why one would not submit the device for opendevice testing (which i thought was a fairly quick 3 weeks process) to get the EVO on the network. I mean from all the PR crap I read about verizon last year it sounds like as long as the device isnt malicious or in anyway harming the network and has the correct technology (which is 850/1900 CDMA-2000 1xRTT / EVDO) then it should pass right? 





Can people in the know shed light on these two points?
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#6 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:01:12 AM(UTC)
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Pozzi wrote:
Hopefully my experience will help you guys. When the palm pre first came out I picked one up and took on the task of getting it over to Verizon. The first hurdle was the software on the phone, had to unlock it, change the prl and edit some other nv-items.  The biggest hurdle is getting Verizon to add your MEID from the evo into their database, which is extremely difficult.  A social engineering task really.

I wasn't able to get them to add my MEID so I repaired my MEID if you know what that means.  It's nothing I'll speak of on here, but google it.  And that was how I got a palm pre on verizon, with a bit of spoofing.  There were still issues with data provisioning though.  Don't know if this would be easier with an android phone since the OS is easily masked. 




How did you unlock the Pre? I am use to using windows mobile sprint phones and the security and hardspl unlockers are generated by Olipro.



Is rooting the Pre, what you call unlocking the phone?



Thank you in advance.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:23:07 PM(UTC)
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Here's a new story from Tier 2. "I can't add that MEID because that device was manufactured only for Sprint". I replied with something like, "Has the policy changed in the last year? I ask because I've ported in a Touch Pro and an old Touch about a year ago without any trouble."



To that he replied, "Those were also manufactured for Verizon though so our database would accept those. The manufacturer won't allow us to add this MEID because it's solely for Sprint."



I'm sure he's still ignorant to the real possibilities, or he's been taught to use that as an excuse, but that's a new one. At least he appeared more enlightened than nearly every other tech I've spoken with and the Tier 1 support was quick to transfer me over even though it sounded like she understood my request (I made it clear it was a Sprint phone).
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