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Rank: Android
Joined: 5/24/2010(UTC) Posts: 1 Points: 3 Location: United States
Groups: Registered Users, Subscribers
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I was gone a month or so. I came back and my favorite android site seems dead?
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Rank: Android Guru
Joined: 5/19/2010(UTC) Posts: 177 Points: 620 Location: United States
Groups: cvpcs, Global Moderators, Registered Users, Regular Moderators, Staff, Subscribers Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
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the old owner decided to sell the site..so rainabba bought it...and now me and a bunch of others are bringing it back with a new face...welcome back...still have alot of people here from the old alldroid and the community keeps growing everyday MotoDroid Running Cyanogen 6.0 RC3 with Luna Theme CVPCS's 1.2ghz SV Kernel Overclocked to 250-1200Mhz ADW Launcher Jit Enabled What Verizon doesnt, ADC does
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Rank: Android Guru
Joined: 5/17/2010(UTC) Posts: 66 Points: 208  Location: United States Groups: cvpcs, Global Moderators, Registered Users, Regular Moderators, Staff, Subscribers Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
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It is a slow but steady rebuild and if you have any information you don't see on the site please feel frr to post it so we can further grow Motorola DROID AllDroid Global Mod Gtalk: Thatmayh3mguy@gmail.com XBL: STUCK Mayh3m I"m just your average geek trying to survive in a Pre-Post-apocalyptic wasteland
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Rank: Android
Joined: 6/9/2010(UTC) Posts: 34 Points: 108 Location: United States
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I had alldroid bookmarked as it was "www.alldroid.org" and hit it the other day to find a dead site. Searched google for answers and just gave up and started frequenting an Android bookmark that worked. I don't know if this was a cpanel redirect situation or someone playing with .htaccess, but as far as SEO is concerned, a site like this has no problems using www. in fact, there are several loopholes to still get good PR while utilizing both name.org and www.name.org. Not sure what the deal is, but you're giving a negative impression by everyone frequenting their normal bookmark only to find a site that will not load. Motorola DROID Bugless Beast V0.4 (Froyo - 2.2) Chevy's 1.0ghz LV 7-Slot Kernel NexTheme 0.4 Clockwork Recovery
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Rank: Administration
Joined: 5/17/2010(UTC) Posts: 131 Points: 100,300 Location: United States
Groups: Administrators, AllDroid Sponsor, filemanagertest, Registered Users, RootzWiki Admin, RootzWiki Editor, Subscribers Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 4 time(s) in 4 post(s)
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Thanks for pointing out the www hostname issue. I made a mistake in our recent server migration and www.alldroid.org was pointing at the old server still. Since I never bother with www. anymore (no most sites), I didn't notice :)
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Rank: Android
Joined: 6/9/2010(UTC) Posts: 34 Points: 108 Location: United States
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rainabba wrote:Thanks for pointing out the www hostname issue. I made a mistake in our recent server migration and www.alldroid.org was pointing at the old server still. Since I never bother with www. anymore (no most sites), I didn't notice :) Oh, well hey didn't mean to sound like an ass, but it sort of seemed alldroid was just continuing without a care on the issue..guess that's what I get for assuming :P I usually never type www before anything, however alldroid was bookmarked via link and that's how it sat in my bookmarks. It hurts nothing to have them both setup, and if SEO was a concern, I could fix that in a snap :P Motorola DROID Bugless Beast V0.4 (Froyo - 2.2) Chevy's 1.0ghz LV 7-Slot Kernel NexTheme 0.4 Clockwork Recovery
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Rank: Administration
Joined: 5/17/2010(UTC) Posts: 131 Points: 100,300 Location: United States
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I didn't take it that way :) I'd love to hear your input on SEO since I'm relatively new to it (as it stands now anyway, was another beast back in the days of Altavista). My solution (bare in mind this is IIS 7.5) was to create a 2nd site using hostheaders for http://www.alldroid.org and redirects to http://alldroid.org$S$Q with a permanent 301.
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Rank: Android
Joined: 7/7/2010(UTC) Posts: 2 Points: 6 Location: US
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eeek... 301 should be your last resort for anything, let alone this...
If you must redirect, use a silent (server-side) redirect... otherwise just point the www sub to the same place... Goog is used to it, in fact, I would bet it's expected. I (highly) recommend the latter... from experience.
301 from www sub = bad fricken news man...
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Rank: Administration
Joined: 5/17/2010(UTC) Posts: 131 Points: 100,300 Location: United States
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dustinmj wrote:eeek... 301 should be your last resort for anything, let alone this...
If you must redirect, use a silent (server-side) redirect... otherwise just point the www sub to the same place... Goog is used to it, in fact, I would bet it's expected. I (highly) recommend the latter... from experience.
301 from www sub = bad fricken news man... Can you provide any links to explain? Everything I've heard or read says the same thing. Duplicate content will lower ranking and 301's are the best way to deal with multiple host names having the same content. rel=canonical is the 2nd preferred method. Btw, I'm not sure how familiar you are with IIS, but the way I've implemented this (and this is typical), a redirect is done AND a 301 is returned so the user gets where they're trying to go and crawlers get updated.
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Rank: Android
Joined: 6/6/2010(UTC) Posts: 17 Points: 54 Location: US
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Wow Rainabba I haven't used IIS 7 since way back in the day (around 2000) while I was an Analyst/Database Administrator with Musictoday.com. The fact that it's still around and in use is a testament to it's worth and I didn't expect it would still be used today. (I kinda fell oit of developing for Windows for a long while so I was kept outta the loop for a while).
Back on topic. If you are redirecting traffic from within ASP/ASP.NET then you have two choices available to you, each with their own pros and cons:
A) You could use Response.Redirect. This required two round trips to the server. On the firsr call the server response directs the browser to request the next page. The next page constitutes the second round trip to the web server
B) You could use Server.Transfer. This request only uses one round trip, therefore much less network traffic network is used. However there is a limitation. Using this method, the target page must be on the same web server as the page that callled it.
I would suggest using Server.Transfer whenever possible because the alternative can be very resource intensive. Here is a link I used for troubleshooting SEO issues but it may be too basic for your needs...if so my apologies. It's still too early in the morning for me so if this post was useless to you, then you know where you can put it...lol j/k.
James Halsey, MCP
Running BuglessBeast 0.4 - NexTheme ------------------------------------------------------- Questions? Hit me up via PM/email/messenger/talk for help.
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Rank: Android
Joined: 7/7/2010(UTC) Posts: 2 Points: 6 Location: US
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rainabba wrote:dustinmj wrote:eeek... 301 should be your last resort for anything, let alone this...
If you must redirect, use a silent (server-side) redirect... otherwise just point the www sub to the same place... Goog is used to it, in fact, I would bet it's expected. I (highly) recommend the latter... from experience.
301 from www sub = bad fricken news man... Can you provide any links to explain? Everything I've heard or read says the same thing. Duplicate content will lower ranking and 301's are the best way to deal with multiple host names having the same content. rel=canonical is the 2nd preferred method. Btw, I'm not sure how familiar you are with IIS, but the way I've implemented this (and this is typical), a redirect is done AND a 301 is returned so the user gets where they're trying to go and crawlers get updated. Naw you're right man, that's exactly what you should be doing. I was thinking of something else. Don't drink and post :)
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